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Author:  plasmid [ Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  front wheel
*** jump a few posts down - figured out the spacer is missing ***


What's up guys. Hope you're all swell.

Finally got around to having the original Michelins replaced and I already regret it ;)
Michelin's looked better.

The wheel sits a bit differently and tire is super close to the mud guard on the LH side. (correct size tire)
Before, the wheel spindle was flush on the LH side and sticking out a bit more on the RH side - maybe it wasn't screwed it completely.

The manual says to screw it in completely, which is what the mechanic did now.

But I'm wondering if he missed a spacer. The manual mentions a spacer on the RH side.
Can you tell me if that spacer is installed in the photos below?


If the spacer's installed and everything looks ok, can I back out the spindle a bit so it's flush on the LH side
and tighten everything back up? Would that move the wheel to the right a bit?

Basically, I want it to look like before - see the photos marked BEFORE in the next post.

Thanks much.

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Author:  plasmid [ Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
before

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Author:  plasmid [ Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
I backed the spindle out some. Does it look like that spacer is in there?
I really have no idea what it's supposed to look like.

I find it strange that before the spindle was sitting differently.
I can't see the previous mechanic not tightening it completely.

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Author:  plasmid [ Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
Thought some more about this. I think they're separate issues.

The washer is definitely missing - found some older photos.

But, it's the speedo drive that determines where the wheel sits.

The tire being closer to the mud guard on one side may be due to the slightly different profile compared to the Michelin's.


Here's the info on that washer that goes on the RH side. If anyone has an extra one, I would be interested in buying it.

It's part # 037077310

"2mm thick with an ID of 17mm and OD somewhere around 22mm-24mm"
Author:  plasmid [ Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
Went back to the shop - I think I found the original washer.

For reference the dimensions are: 1.5mm thick, 17mm ID, 26.9 OD

Didn't install it yet cause that mechanic wasn't there, but it seems to line up as before.

In any case, if anyone has an extra 1 or two I'll buy them.
Author:  plasmid [ Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
Looking at the parts manual (page 34) the speedo drive (part number eight) is made up of two parts, one if which is a washer.

Can anyone confirm if there's a washer between the speedo drive and the fork leg?


In the workshop manual there's only mention of a washer on the RH side,
but the pictures show washers on both sides. That might explain why
the new tire sits closer to the mud guard on the LH side.


Man, you have to supervise some 'professionals' like babies,
it's unbelievable.
Author:  paso750 [ Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
The washer is 3mm thick. The washer of the speedo drive exists only in the parts catalog, not in real life. I had tried a 1mm shim once but with it the brake discs were not centered in the calipers anymore.

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Author:  plasmid [ Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
Put the washer that I found which looked correct on.

Looks about right, although, I'd still like to confirm if you guys have a washer on the speedo drive side also.

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Author:  plasmid [ Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
Author:  plasmid [ Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
BTW - can you tell me the outer diameter of your washer?

I did find another that's 2.5mm thick, 17.2 ID and 33.5 OD
Author:  paso750 [ Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
mine is about 29mm od.

The pic below is from Stein Dinse. As you see the washer is thicker than 1.5mm.

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Author:  plasmid [ Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
Yeah, I saw the one from Dnse, which is NLA right now. Is that what you got?

Guess I'll try the bigger one also and see.

Thanks for the input - much appreciated.
Author:  plasmid [ Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
Author:  paso750 [ Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
If you look at the sliding caliper it shows almost 29mm. How do you read 24mm?

Unless one of the past owners replaced the washer mine is still the original one.
Imo there's not the one correct size for that washer. The question to ask is why is there a washer in the first place? It should not be necessary. Who knows maybe there was a change in the design of the rims which then became narrower or the axle was used on other models before or ... The only reason there is a washer must be that when the axle is fully screwed into the left fork leg the rim is not fully tightened and still has axial play. Maybe a 1.5 or 2mm washer is enough to eliminate that. I never measured that.
The outer dimensions are not that important. It would be sufficiant that the washer has the same od as the axle. It only has to press against the inner bearing race. Of course the washer must be smaller than the outer bearing race or it would cause the bearing to lock.
Author:  plasmid [ Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: front wheel
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