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100.000km is really a lot although there`re some bikes around with even higher milage.
Sooner or later you should consider an engine rebuilt. However the bike was treated it may need new engine bearings, steering head bearing etc, fork rebuild ...
This should be checked in detail. Cecking the engine of cousre is about impossible. Only indication are "unnormal" noises, rattling, vibrations when driving.
How much does it cost ? With that milage it should be really cheap. I only know one or 2 Pasos with similar milage.

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As Gerhard said, usually at 100.000Km the engine should be completeley rebuilt: I mean completely disassembled and checked for every wear limit indicated by the Service Manual!

This is usually so expensive that very few people do it, but it is necessary to guarantee that it would last for long, because the common 10/20.000Km checks don't refer to engine internal components. Morevoer with the Paso there's the problem that not all the spare parts are available at reasonable prices...

If you are able to do it by yourself, it can worth the effort.
If you plan to have it done by a Ducati Service, it should be cheaper to buy a new bike ;-)
Otherwise, just don't expect to run for other 100.000 Km...

LC

PS: I only know of an Aprilia CapoNord that reached 100.000Km in about 6 years and the Aprilia Service called for fome technical journalist to attend to the full engine revision!


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The prize is 3000-3500euro. I don't think that this is too much becaus I have seen one almost 7000euros :) . But as I mentioned, I have no experience in repairing things -> so I should by a bike wich would not require full disassembly and stuff (I don't even have premices for that kind of work)..

So I should check that there is done a huge service to engine, and "distributorbelt + piston rings"-type of service is not enough.. And if the whole engine is checked, then there should not be any problems? hmm.. Maby the prize could indicate, that there has not been done any expensive repairs in immediate past..

Now I have a Suzuki XN85Turbo '86, and I would be changing this to paso. Maby I am doing a mistake.. Maby not :roll:
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Check that the belts have been replaced. This should be done every 20,000 Km, if not they need to be done as a belt failure can be extremely disastarous. (could be a bargianing tool)

Check that the bike does not have signs of abuse & looks well cared for. Check around the steering head for cracks in the frame, should not be any.Also check for fuel tank leaks that have been reported I think around the front of the tank. Ask how often oil changes are done. Should be every 2500 - 3000 Km.

When you ride the 906 remember it has a dry clutch so it will rattle, this is normal. the clutch can also feel heavy as a result.

If it is still running the original Weber carbs, even if set up properly she is likely to be a dog to ride around town. take it out on a good stretch for the test ride. Once on the open road she comes into her own. It will not be the fastest bike you ever ride & accelleration is not likely to snap your neck but you will be doing illegal speeds before you realise it.

Steering the 906 (if still fitted with the original 16" rims) requires you to force the bike where you want it to go, it wont fight you but likes to be told where to go. Tyres for the 16" rims are limited & the standard fitment Michelin A59/A39's require more force to steer as they wear. I have ridden many Jap & European bikes & the Paso is definately my favourite for a good set of twisties. She will hold her own on a good windy road & as the motor has so much torque you do not need to be up & down through the gears as you would on a jap screamer.

Remember it is a 16 year old Ducati & ride it with this in mind.
Some spares are hard to get such as mirror/indicator pods but this is a good site to track them down. Not all Ducati dealers are keen on working on older Dukes either so if you find a good mechanic or are inclined to do the work your self you should be fine.

I have an '89 906 & have 85,000 Km on it. she is going strong & looks set to do so for a long time yet. If the bike has been looked after it could be a good buy. The Pantah motor is strong & simple & treated well will last a long time.

Hope this helps & please keep us posted on what you do .

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is 3-3.500 really a good price !? Specially for a bike with that milage. Don`t let us talk about list prices but for what they are sold.

here`s a ner to perfect and tuned 750 for € 3180 (in the US, so it would be + shipping and import tax)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-S ... enameZWDVW

here`re some 750s and a 907ie with 65K km for € 1.990
http://mobile.de/SIDVdiClmAgT-GOk8UY5Vk ... Search.y=0

the 750s in the link above or this one are tried to be sold for a long time, but noone wants them as the price is too high. I see that the 906 is worth more, but regarding the milage ? Just to have an indication I would search for ads and compare the prices.
http://cgi.ebay.de/Ducati-750-Paso_W0QQ ... dZViewItem

Services at your Duc dealer can cost specially if he starts to "find things".

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:30 am 
Heh, well mine has done about 115,000km, and it is getting pretty tired! Mind you I ride it everywhere and don't spare the horses. :)

I've had it since '96, and to be fair I reckon it is pretty remarkable that it has lasted as long as it has.


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