Maaaaaate!!! Hey - reckon you've probably 'nailed it' there, cos a fair bit of that is my thoughts too, with the following to consider as well (& yes Skins - some of my Harley comments were a little bit tongue in cheek sorta stuff........)
For me, regardless of what I ride or own - i consider myself a motorcyclist - I learnt to ride when aged 8, & have been passionate about bikes for as long as I can remember - (have even been employed at various bike shops as a mechanic).
One of the things that I admire about the American people, is the way that they are so passionate & patriotic about their country, & also the products that are manufactured there. Couple this with a strong Marine environment, who see bike riding as the ultimate form of 'freedom', & Harley Davidson have a recipe for success, no matter what the product is like. And hey - I have no problem with that at all - I think it is truely great!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: As such, I believe that the 'Black Ribbon' rides that happen in the States, are absolutely amazing, & I stand in awe of the people that are involved. :thumbup: :thumbup:
Where things come unstuck a bit in my thoughts, are when Harley's are seen purely as a status symbol - I believe the bulk of sales, certainly on this side of the world, have that association attached to them. They are mostly brought by people that could'nt ride their way outa a wet paper bag, but think the 'chromed up Harley' looks great parked outside the cafe on a Sunday.
Verification of this statement, is found by the number of low-mileage late model Harleys currently for sale. The middle-aged wannabes (accountants/lawyers etc) have moved onto the next yuppie 'in thing'.
To be fair, Ducati have also had their times when ownership of their product was driven by these types of buyers. The advantage is that once the fad is over, there are bargins to be had by 'real' motorcyclists.
Seems ironic, the amount of motorcycle accidents there are these days, by people who are aged 40-55.........................
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