Mustergutachten BRD für Umrüstung auf 130/70-16 u. 160/70-16

Banner65 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:54 pm

Hat hier irgend jemand ein Mustergutachten für die Umrüstung der alten Bereifung auf die 130/70-16 Sportec M3 und 160/70-16 ME1? Gibt es bei jemandem Erfahrungen und ggf. ein paar Bilder vom Umbau und Aussagen beim DEUTSCHEN PINGEL-TÜV? Wer hat diese Reifen schon gefahren?
Bin für jede Hilfe und Unterstützung dankbar!
Ciao!
Bernd
0170-562 5012 oder banner65@gmx.net

paso750 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:15 pm

hast du mit Metzeler gesprochen, ob es eine Unbedenklichkeitsbescheinigung für diese Kombination gibt? Das bedeutet zwar nicht, dass du eine TÜV Zulassung dafür bekommst aber es hilft immer etwas mehr an Unterlagen dabei zu haben.

G.

Banner65 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:28 pm

Metzeler und Ducati Deutschland sagten nur, dass diese Kombination schon in der BRD gefahren wird und wohl einige Umbauten unterwegs sind MIT TÜV. Aber sonst gibt´s weder von Duc BRD noch von Metzeler irgendwas dazu. Leider.
Die Kollegen von Duc BRD meinten, dass es im Prinzip bei vorherigem Einweihen vom TÜV wohl kein größeres Problem sei.
Vielleich hat ja schon jemand die Erfahrung gesammelt.

Banner65 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:03 pm

Wenn jemand die Bescheinigungen von Pirelli für den TÜV für folgende Reifen benötigt, ich kann ihm die mailen...
VR: 130/70 ZR 16 M/C (61W) TL Sportec M3
HR: 160/70 VB 16 (71V) TL ME1 compK

Skins · **Posted:** Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:12 pm

A brief translation into English, please?

paso750 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:58 am

in Germany most changes done to a vehicle, like i.e. a different tire size, exhaust etc. require an expert`s report. With that report you go to the technical vehicle inspection dept. (TÜV) and if they accept it they will officially homologate it and enregister the change in the vehicle`s papers.
If they don`t or you drive around w/o any ABE (let`s call that a letter of conformity) the modification is not legal. In some cases your vehicle`s insurance is void then and if something happens (ie an accident caused by the modfication) you`re screwed.

Bernd is currently looking for homologation documents for the tire combination 130/70-16 Sportec M3 and 160/70-16 ME1 and asked if anyone has these papers.

G.

Skins · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:11 am

Thanks, G. Do you know if it's easy to fit those tyres, and how they ride?

paso750 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:19 am

no I don`t. I have seen though some years ago a Paso with a 160/70-16 rear. It was an M59X like the original 160/60. The only things I can remember is that the bike had the original swingarm and that the owner had to remove it (as he hadn`t homologated that size).
Sidenote, although that size might be an alternative there seems to be only one manufacturer who produces these tires, Metzeler. So sooner or later these may end up like the M59X. Discontinued as not profitable. However at the moment they still exist ...

G.

PS: The 180/60-16 Avon AV72 Cobra finally came out here and I will go for that one. Avon sent me a document of compliance for the AV72 in combination with a 130/70-16 AV45 Azaro ST. So that`s my first step towards homologation.

persempre907 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:47 pm

paso_rosso · **Posted:** Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:01 am

paso750 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:04 am

it was done before with the AM22 rear, which according to Avon was the predecessor of the AV72. I`m sure you have to lift the front fender a bit as the tire is higher. You`ll need a 520 chain and some spacers under the sprockets to move the chain from the tire. That is what I was told by the company which did the conversion a few years ago.
I`ll let you know when I have the tires, but that can still take a bit as my bike is not yet ready to hit the road.

G.

paso_rosso · **Posted:** Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:43 pm

that might be worth doing!
thanks for the info!!

bender · **Posted:** Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:26 pm

[quote="paso750"] You`ll need a 520 chain and some spacers under the sprockets to move the chain from the tire. That is what I was told by the company which did the conversion a few years ago.
I`ll let you know when I have the tires, but that can still take a bit as my bike is not yet ready to hit the road.
i just put on my last set of tires. so i wood be interested to know if this works also. so please let me know also.thanks bender :banghead:

axman · **Posted:** Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:40 pm

Hallo zusammen,
als ich 2001 meine Paso 906 gekauft habe war bereits eine Kombination Metzeler
Me33 Lazer 120/80 VB16 und Metzeler ME1 MBS ComK 160/70 VB16 montiert.
Die ist bei mir auch so eingetragen gewesen. Da es den ME33 nun nicht mehr gibt,
habe ich den Metzeler Lasertec 120/80 VB16 montiert.
Das was Paso750 sagte stimmt: Das Kettenrad muß mit Unterlegscheiben distanziert
und eine 520´er Kette verwendet werden.

Hello everybody,
When i bought my paso 906 in 2001, it already came with a combination
Metzeler ME33 Lazer Front, dimension 120/80 VB 16 and Metzeler ME1 MBS CompK,
dimension 160/70 VB16, all written in the vehicle registration document. Since
the Me33 Lazer isn´t available anymore i have mountet a Metzeler Lasertec 120/80 VB16.
What Paso750 said is correct: you have to put some spacers under the rear sprocket to move the chain from the tire and use a 520 chain.

Greetings :thumbup:

Pasodoble · **Posted:** Sat May 03, 2008 6:27 pm

I don't want to burst anyones bubble, but I'm sure I read recently that the earliest paso 750's were fitted with a 520 chain but that they soon switched to a 530. The reason was that the heavier 520 caused excessive wear of the driveline components. Specifically the front sprocket bearing ,I think.
R.L.

Mustergutachten BRD für Umrüstung auf 130/70-16 u. 160/70-16

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