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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:10 pm 
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no spark at the plugs
everything else is working - turning over, etc.
can anyone refer me to a systematic electrical diagnostic path to
trace the lack of spark problem?

EDIT:I have the 2 relays added per 750 Paso wiring upgrade.
No voltage at coils -
Ignition switch functions -
Starter switch cranks starter good -

I added 12 volts directly from the battery to the coils and fires right up using starter button.

While running I toggled the kill switch with no results. I don't know for sure if this is what normally happens when you run voltage directly to the coils.

With voltage to coils directly from the battery I unplugged starter/kill switch assembly and ran a jumper from yellow to orange on the junction to the starter/kill switch and bike fires right up.

I can feel both relays clicking each time the ignition switch is turned on.

Anyways -

Both orange coil wires return to the ignition module have no voltage.(Note: This doesn't seem to match the wiring upgrade's wiring - investigating further.)

I switched out the ignition modules and still no results.

Next I will try switching out the Regulator.

Please chime in - I'm here for your thoughts and opinions as well as solutions . . .

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when did you get so friggin lazy you cant do a search? dude ya kill me :beer: :beer: :beer:

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Well its 4:30 here in California and sun is below the horizon and temp is dropping fast so I will pick up tomorrow - and get with you (Higgy) about where the orange wire that I used to power the coils is coming from.

I'm not sure if the volts should be coming from the regulator, through the ignition modules to the coils - because that is how things were when it wasn't starting i.e. no power to the orange coils wire.

Anyways - took a spin round the block and parked 'er for the night.

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TNX :) I alwais try to help my brothers When I can...

The "extra" orange wire might be the one in the OEM wiring, while the upgrading has (maybe) a relay for every single coil.
Be sure that +12v runs out from relais and follow the additional wiring to the coils:
If the 12v comes out from the relais and does not arrive to the end of the line, teremust be something broken somewhere. Maybe a pair of additional fuses?

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You can find a copy of Jon's wiring mod here

and a simple relay diagram is also here


should give you all the details you require to sort it out :thumbup:
keep in mind there are a few variations on how to do it :fart:

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one relay per coil wouldn`t make much sense if that is the case.

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