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what bike did that clutch slave exactly come from (model and year) ?

I`m not sure I understood the rest.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:29 pm 
haha sweet, ok it works now. I had spilled some brake fluid and oil around the bottom, and when I turn on there is some smoke, is this ok? Also, I added a too much oil, and there are bubbles, is it better to try to ride it to get moisture out if there is any, or to empty some oil first?

The cylinder I bought was this one, which the picture shows exactly the same as my old one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270860518249?ss ... 1497.l2649

However, when it arrived, it looked like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-97-Ducati- ... es&vxp=mtr

Except that on the outward facing part in center there was a piece you could take out with a hex, and the top had the banjo with the clutch line and a bleeder bolt inside of that, with no cap.

I bled it, and it seems to work fine, I haven't ridden it really yet, but I will probably take it to a place that can bleed it better later.

How would I know if the cylinder was the wrong size? Would it simply not work?


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you should wash off brake fluid with water instantly as it`s caustic and will leave marks on painted parts.
Where is the smoke coming from ? If you just got oil on your header it will smoke for a while until it`s burnt off.

The bubbles in the oil are a consequence of you adding too much. If you do that the crankshaft starts hitting the oil. What you get is foam. Numerous things can happen then. The oil pump starts pumping it, you lose oil pressure or foam is pressed out the crankcase vent and returns to your injectors. It all depends on how much over max you filled it.
If you didn`t change the oil yet, do it now. If you recently did it might work to suck out some of the excessive oil with a syringe and a thin tube or you`ll have to carefully drain some.

You sure are impatient. If I wouldn`t get what I bought and paid for I`d ask or complain instead of just putting it on the bike. Specially if it`s a part I could have bought for 1/3 of the price.
However can you post a picture of it ? Is there a year stamp on the bottom of it (a circle with 2 numbers in it) ?
I can`t think of one with a hex on the outside. It should not look like this



Theoretically the newer clutch slave cylinders don`t have enough excursion, hence the clutch doesn`t disengage properly.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:49 pm 
Ok, I will get a picture later, and change the oil.

When I took the side case off to take out the stator, some oil dripped out, the side case was off for a couple of days. I put it back on and filled up with more oil, non synthetic like it was before, but I did it on the kickstand, and it was higher than normal when I put it back on.

Did I do something wrong there, could water have gotten in or something or should it be better after I change the oil and filter?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:53 am 
Dang I thought I was starting to get old, almost 22. :evil:

I mean I put the bike on the center stand not kickstand when I added the oil, I used the wrong word. I was supposed to do it there and not a normal position like riding?

Clutch Slave Cylinder




The oil was changed about 900 miles ago, with a new fuel filter. What fuel filter should I use to change it? The auto place close by is Autozone, and I can order anything from their website there and go pick it up.

Oil level on kickstand (not center stand)



Oil level in riding position

It seems like it is where it should be, but a few days ago it was higher than this, after I had it turned on for about 5-10 minutes, now it is here, and the smoke is less than before.


Oil level in riding position, turned on
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Is it supposed to be lower when it is turned on? You can barely see the oil position at the very bottom.


After turned off, in riding position

This is where it looks bad... frothy more yellowish color... After I run it for about 1-2 minutes then turned it off, then it has these little bubbles and yellowish color.



This is where the smoke is coming from, whitish/grayish color

This is right at the bottom of the oil case, right above the base of the exhaust area. The smoke is much less than before, and I do have some brake fluid spilled.

I was worried about a sound as well... I can't remember, it has been a while since I rode this, but there appears to be slightly more rattling sound coming from the engine, but that could be my imagination.



Fuel filter

This looks like it would be hard to take off with my hands, I just need one of those tools to take it off right?


Is this where you drain the oil?

What is the screw at the bottom for?
Also does anyone have any idea what size this is? I have a 24 which is too big, and I think the next size bigger socket I have is 18 or 19 which is too small.





What is this? It is on the bottom of oil tank, but over to the left, looks like a large hex can fit inside




If I was to go change the oil, would it be ok to drive the bike to the Autozone and change there, or should I walk there and bring the parts back. (1.2 miles away, about 3-4 minutes driving with all the lights.)


-When I change the oil, should it be in riding position (just held up in the same position as if I was riding) or center stand? When I add more oil, I put it to the middle of the two lines, and then how long should I keep it on before adding more to see if it goes down at all?



p.s. Some of the pictures are sideways, the one where I think you drain oil with the screw also is completely upside down...


I can't sell this or ride this until I get it fixed, I haven't had a job in like 9 months, I was traveling for a long time, so I can't afford to buy another vehicle until I do haha. Thanks for helping me fix!


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