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Post subject: Re: A Call for Help Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:02 am |
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Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:34 pm Posts: 41 Location: Saint George, Utah
model: 750 Paso
year: 1988
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Post subject: Re: A Call for Help Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:10 am |
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Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:34 pm Posts: 41 Location: Saint George, Utah
model: 750 Paso
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[quote="JWilliam"]You can make very fine 'welds' with Alumalloy / Lumiweld etc. It is a Zinc alloy and has a lower melting point than Aluminium. The only drawback being when the working temperature is reached the Aluminium will be soft as it is now near to its own melting point. What this means is you cannot clamp the Aluminium with any force since this will push the Aluminium out of shape. That looks do-able, I'd be tempted to have a go. I recommend creating a Zinc powder from a Lumiweld rod and coat the fracture surfaces with it. Got a lot of cavitation within the parent metal so a Zinc powder will fill nicely. Then accurately and gently jigging the pieces together, heat the break area until the Zinc powder melts and joins. Don't use a plumbers blow-torch but a butane micro / pencil torch. Its scrap otherwise so what have you got to lose (apart from $500)? The picture here shows the join of two pieces of Aluminium by a single stroke of Alumalloy rod along the weld site. Not the method you should try at first with your repair but what it shows is that very small and intricate welds can be made
Interesting JWilliam, I would be interested in knowing more about this process how do you create a zinc powder from lumiweld? I have never worked with this type of material before. Thanks bender
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Post subject: Re: A Call for Help Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:18 am |
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Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:00 am Posts: 327 Location: Nottingham, UK
model: 906 Paso
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Sorry for the delay, its the time zones. Anyway, to make a zinc powder you have to do it the hard way, secure the rod in a vice (they are about 4mm dia), file an end down and collect the powder. You need more than a pinch. The rods are quite bulky and trying make a pass over such a delicate repair will push it out of alignment. I'm at a loss to think of another way, if the powder really doesn't work then a basic melt onto a wall will have to be tried. Don't 'clean up' the edges of the fracture with a file or abrasive at all, you need them for accurate realignment. To remove the JB Weld, burn it off and scrape away the carbon. Place the powder along the fracture, put the piece onto it and assuming it is secure, apply the heat, Soon as the zinc melts kill the heat and leave for an hour. As for jigging the break into place - try a few paperclips - that the Aluminium softens is a huge problem, if you used crocodile clips they would bite into it once hot! The smaller break with its end gap looks like a challenge too but if you are successful with the bigger break it shouldn't be so daunting.
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Post subject: Re: A Call for Help Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:59 am |
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Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:34 pm Posts: 41 Location: Saint George, Utah
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Post subject: Re: A Call for Help Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:27 pm |
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Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:00 am Posts: 327 Location: Nottingham, UK
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Another product that might help is 'Weld putty'. The professionals joke about it but here it could be of use, if one side was packed out with the putty to hold the piece and the other side alloyed. The other property of Alumalloy is that it flows when hot, so to braze a wall it has to be flat to aid pooling. You also get a stainless steel brush with the rods for final cleaning, but that is the least of your problems.
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Post subject: Re: A Call for Help Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:40 pm |
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Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 247 Location: Mildura ,Australia
model: 750 Paso
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This guy was selling top covers cheap on ebay recently,he had 5 or 6 at the time,try contacting him,they were very cheap $50-60 australian dollars ! J.
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Post subject: Re: A Call for Help Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:14 pm |
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Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:34 pm Posts: 41 Location: Saint George, Utah
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Post subject: Re: A Call for Help Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:44 am |
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Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:50 pm Posts: 3259 Location: Hilltown,Pennsylvania
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_________________ Ducati,making mechanics out of riders since 1946 There's no problem so bad that a little fixing can't make it worse! : ) If it ain't broke keep fixin it till it is 88 750 90 906 92 907ie
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Post subject: Re: A Call for Help Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:48 am |
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Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 247 Location: Mildura ,Australia
model: 750 Paso
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I forgot to mention that there are two types of top cover (different amount of bolt holes),be carefull if you do find one that the number of holes matches yours.He is also selling the plastic weber floats,so I assumed that the top cover also matched the paso weber.This may not be correct,so check. J.
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